Responding to commentary on Erik’s book blog
I haven’t checked the post about the situation involving Alberta Bible College but I know for a fact that I should have. It would have made my fight against a certain defamer more effective. A new party who calls him/herself “curious” is spreading lies on Mr. Ringmar’s blog. And I think it is giving Mr. Ringmar an incorrect impression about the facts. But I plan to fix that by explaining some of the comments on Mr. Ringmar’s post by both Eric and “curious”.
From Erik: Hi there, I know they can. Of course, and that’s part of what it makes the blogging phenomenon so interesting. Lies are all over the blogs but you can’t really legislate against them. People can always lie anonymously if nothing else.
At the same time we all know that the internet is full of lies. We don’t believe everything we read. In order to assess the truth of something someone tells us we need to know who they are and what authority they have. Often this is impossible to judge. Not least when people blog anonymously.
In the end there’ll be lot’s of lies on the web but lies that people don’t actually take very seriously. If some old girlfriend had a blog talking about what a dork I was, I don’t think I would take it very seriously.
The problem is rather that the truths that people tell — and they may be very important truths — are next to impossible to distinguish from the lies.
Fortunately, in this case, I did not lie. I have told the truth, down to a T. I do agree that you need to take things written on the Internet with a bit of the salt, but everything I’ve written is 100% true. I do not lie to people who read this blog and I take being read as a great honour and responsibility. My goal is that hopefully, this blog will come up when some potential boyfriend Googles her name and finds my blog. This way, he knows what to expect from this horrible, horrible human being up front. These truths are very important and I am trying to save some unlucky guy some unnecessary pain and anguish in the long run. And she will do this to other people - it’s bound to happen.
I agree. It is difficult to accurately determine what is truth and what is fiction, especially on a blog. Sometimes the reality in someone’s mind is not the reality of a situation. I just personally feel that it is inappropriate to ‘add fuel to the fire’ of a situation when its veracity has not been confirmed. I suppose in the end it is a matter of he said, she said, they said, he said, she said…The unfortunate result, however, is the spread of falsity that damages reputations and integrity.
Fortunately, everything I write on this blog is fact. It’s not a reality “in my mind”. It’s a reality in reality. Just if I were to tell you that the sky is blue or if 2 + 2 = 4. Unfortunately, not all of the truths on this blog are that easy to prove. Like, if you look at this recent post about a date that went horribly wrong, you will see that it is balanced from top to bottom. And I welcome commenting on my blog, most of the comments from Miranda and from other ABC students are left intact. I welcome open and honest debate about any and all content on this blog.
When she burns many people with her own actions - it is necessary to shed some light on the situation. It is necessary to reveal the truth. Her own actions damage her integrity. This is true for all people but I am putting a spotlight on those actions. And this is so very important.
Erik: That’s right. It’s not good to spread lies and rumors. Doing it behind a person’s back isn’t very nice either though. At least in a blog you know what is being said. Also, people don’t take online remarks very seriously anymore. We all know there a lot of stupid people out there who say stupid things.
I think Kyle should apologize to the girl and the school, but I also think he should be allowed to go on blogging about whatever he wants. What he said online was probably stupid but it was not illegal and it shouldn’t merit disciplinary action.
I don’t know Kyle at all but reading his blog he comes across as someone who needs someone to talk to.
You are right, it’s not good to spread lies and rumours. That’s why I don’t do it. In fact, I rebuked people who posted about the iPhone before it was released because I was afraid that it was merely a rumour. Fortunately, it turned out to be fact and we are about to have the coolest device EVER in our hands soon. But imagine what would happen if iPhone were not a reality. Imagine if it were just a rumour. I would have been right in rebuking them. I know I would have been disappointed if I had my heart set on an iPhone but it never came out. I hope that anyone who does research on Miranda will take what I’ve said very seriously. Because I know it to be true and so will anyone that truly knows all the details about the situation.
I refuse to apologize for her after what she did. I have not said anything stupid and I find what have you written to be highly libellous. I do need someone to talk to but not someone that will just patronize me like you seem to want to do.
Thanks for your response Erik. It seems we are on the same page. I agree with you about Kyle’s need to talk to someone, and I also, to a lesser degree, agree with the comment regarding the blog itself. At least it is public. The only concern that remains for me is with regards to the belief that it was his blog that led to the disciplinary action. The story goes deeper than that.
We all say stupid things, and do stupid things. But we must also be held accountable for said words and actions.
I am certain you have heard the phrase, “where there is smoke, there is fire.”
The blog may be the smoke, but there is a whole lot more going on than just what was written on a blog site.
I just wish that there could be honest and open communication regarding this entire situation. That way healing may come to all parties involved.
Unfortunately, you and Erik are not truly on the same page, Curious. I do need people in my life just like everyone does, but you should know that I am telling the truth. It was the blog that led to the disciplinary actions and unfortunately, the truth is not truly important to the staff at Alberta Bible College. If they governed their school in an honest and truly “christian” way, they would have given more weight to finding the innocent party rather than pulling an immigrant down. I agree that we all say and do stupid things. And I also agree that we must be held accountable for our actions. But telling the truth should not be punished against. The truth is important and it should be in the hands of the world.
I’ve heard of the phrase too and I do agree that there is a lot more to ABC than what was written on this blog. But the good news is that there is honest and open communication encouraged on everything written at this blog. Unfortunately, only the really determined people who just wish to write libel have commented here. There is a distinct fear about repercussions about exercising your right to freedom of speech in the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. This fear is embodied in the entire student body at ABC. This is why there aren’t that many people willing to tell the truth about this situation. But I do wish for healing to all parties. The problem is that you truly don’t wish for healing to all parties.
Hi Curious, thanks for confirming my impression. I always suspected the blog was smoke that indicated something more profound. But repressive measures — like expulsion or whatever — is probably stupid. If the problem is that the school is worried about its image as a result of the blog, they should stop worrying. Old people worry about this kind of stuff, young people — prospective students — know that all kinds of inanitites go on in blogs, and they are relaxed about it.
You’re not Miranda by chance?
The blog is smoke for a bigger level of corruption by both the staff and certain students that I have not revealed. A friend of mine was recently affected by the corruption of Alberta Bible College and it’s counsellors. She was ridiculed and mocked because of certain life events and this is only by the staff. I am not going to reveal my friend’s name because she might be ABC’s next victim if they found out who I am referring to. They are willing to take down anyone who opposes their questionable practises and exposes the truth about ABC. In fact, many innocent students are robbed of much money by something that Alberta Bible College calls a “chore fee”. ABC robbed me of $350 CAD because of this “chore fee” despite the fact that I completed the requirements to the very definition.
Unfortunately, the problems I have written about that are very visible in ABC’s culture against students and against immigrants are a reality that we have to worry about. My friends are afraid that exposing Alberta Bible College would in some way affect them negatively. I am not sure why this is but I feel for them, because of the fear ABC has instilled in them. And ABC is against freedom of speech because they are afraid that it would expose them for what they truly are. In fact, every time a movie like Robert Greenwald’s Wal-Mart movie hits the world, Wal-Mart publishes a press release trying to discredit it. But everything in those movies are true. We should be very thankful that people like Robert Greenwald and the people at Uberculture are here so we can expose evil in our society and try to squeeze them enough to change.
And worse - young people and the prospective victims and students of ABC are probably desensitized to blogs, no matter how much truth they may contain. But blogs are like people, they can contain truth and they can contain lies. I have made a vow to all of my readers in the form of my Code of Ethics that I will advocate open and honestly. To be read is truly a honour and privileged. My readership has been growing vastly over time and I have stats software to prove this. More and more people are reading my blog because they know that while it can be emotional - it always makes sure to convey truth above all else. In fact, in Google’s last update to it’s page rank my pagerank has jumped into a page rank of 4/10.
Hi Erik. No, I am not Miranda. However I am a student at Alberta Bible College, and have seen first hand the ‘issues’ surrounding Kyle’s current situation. I can say with confidence that his predicament is self-induced, and at the same time unfortunate. There is only so much that can go on, before we are all, ourselves included, called to account for our words and our actions.
I understand what you are saying about not being concerned about the blog itself. For me, it is more an issue of pride and respect. ABC is an amazing school, equipping the leaders of this generation for ministry opportunities. As a student of ABC, I take offense at the blatant ‘defamation’ and comments made regarding not only the students, but the staff as well.
Mr. Pringle and Mr. Fraser are two Christ-hearted men, who have wrestled over this situation since it started. They are not evil men, and our souls as students are not at risk. They are solid men, whose love and compassion imitate the love of Jesus. Role models for this generation.Their intentions, unlike what Kyle has portrayed, are pure and are only intended to help alleviate the situation. They are not trying to harm anyone, nor are they intentionally ‘going after’ Kyle because of his blog.
If we are willing to pour our thoughts out on an internet site, where millions can read it daily, we must be willing to accept the consequences that result.
I personally continue to pray that this ’sitaution’ can be resolved, and that the love of Christ can shine through, lighting the world. Sometimes it is difficult, but I also pray that Kyle can receive whatever help he needs, and finds someone to talk with. I pray that healing will come to all through this challenge, and that we all will be transformed because of it.
Thank you for your open and honest communication.
If you have seen the issues, then why refuse to convey the truth. And have you seen everything? The IM conversations? The conversations in private - at her home and even at the Student Union at U of C? If expressing the truth makes my predicament self-induced, than I am guilty of that. And you are right, there is only so much that can go on before people start demanding accountability. Alberta Bible College WILL ultimately see the effects of it’s own actions toward me and toward others in dropping admission application numbers. ABC is truly amazing alright, but not in a good way. It is amazing that ABC has not been called on it’s actions yet. It is amazing that it uses it’s title as a “Christian School” to cover up their unchristian actions. And for what I have written to even be defamation, it would first have to be untrue.
Defamation is defined as “the communication of a statement that makes a false claim, expressly stated or implied to be factual, that may harm the reputation of an individual, business, product, group, government or nation.” Read the bold text again: A FALSE CLAIM. The truth is not defamation. It has to be false to be defamation. So by definition, there is no content on this blog that could even be considered defamation.
In conclusion, my blog is not immune to defamatory comments or what not. I do reserve the right to deny comments in the moderation queue that have no intellectual value or cannot provide a honest argument. General defamation fits this category. In fact, this “curious” person is not truly curious for the truth. And Lo who has recently appeared as a commenter on this blog is someone who actually helped Miranda harm me. I know who he is and I know that he is a criminal. He has stolen many things even in his home province of Saskatchewan and in Ontario. He was arrested many times and he has quite a rap-sheet. And I know that from this, he is not above his petty crimes against people.
Tags: alberta_bible_college, Blogging, book, credibility, miranda, Writing, wrongfully_accused
February 19th, 2007 at 9:34 am
Kyle you know that what you have written is a lie. When will you stop the falsity and start owning up to the things you have and continue to do?
February 19th, 2007 at 10:51 am
No curious, I know that what you have written is a lie. The truth, however, resonates in this blog. I cannot stop the falsity because I cannot stop what I have not started. Plus, you are the one that is continuing the falsity, as you call it. I will own up the truth but I will not be blamed for something I did not do. I will not be blamed for actions that are produced in your rumour mill.
Curious, there is a difference between you and me and the readers can see this. I have nothing to hide. I have given out my real name and the truth in all posts in this blog. However, when you post your libellous statements and choose to lie and deceive, you hide under nicknames. This is either because of the fact that you do not want to be called on for your lies or it could be the fact that you fear persecution from ABC for freedom of speech. It could also be both.
February 19th, 2007 at 10:58 am
I notice you were a finalist in the RFS Blog Awards. Congratulations. I would like to tell you a little story and then a plea for help.
The story: I saw a little girl in McDonalds over the weekend, and she was so precious. She had light brunette hair, strands were coming out of her loosely-tied ponytail, and her laugh and smile were infectious. She ran up to a slightly older boy and said, “Come play with me.” It was so cute and she eventually got the boy to play with her.
Well, I want to have a little contest called “Battle of the Bloggers.” I wrote about it last week, and my readers were less-than-enthusiastic about the contest. I cannot be entered myself, but I want to host a competiton that, more than anything, will expose me and others to good blogs that we don’t know about to date. Please visit my blog at http://dsmoya31410.blogspot.com to see the details.
The plea: So if you want to nominate a blog (e.g., your blog) for this competition, please do so. I don’t really care who wins; I just want to know about quality blogs. Sorry if this looks like spam. I am just trying to spread the word.
February 25th, 2007 at 2:36 pm
“No curious, I know that what you have written is a lie. The truth, however, resonates in this blog.”
How can you expect to maintain your integrity, when a few posts up on your main page, you made a public apology to stealing content? How are we to know that you are not this “Curious” fellow and trying to add some “flare” to your blog?
I am sorry, but even though you have apologized, this entire blog is tainted in my view. I can not tell if you speak truths, or are simply finding better ways to cover them up. A simple apology will nut suffice in my eyes, you must prove yourself all over again.
You can feel free to delete this comment and silence me, but the truth shall remain.
February 25th, 2007 at 5:01 pm
Because that was years ago. That happened years ago but haunted me to that very day. It was important to me to finally put that demon behind me. If you don’t trust this blog anymore, I can understand. But this Curious fag lies about something that hit me close to home. All I can do is act with integrity now.
March 4th, 2007 at 6:27 pm
I think the problem is that everyone is more concerned with the precious school and less concerned about the person that needs someone to talk to. Perhaps instead of judging him and calling him a liar, take the time to listen and really hear his pain. If the school is equipping you to be true leaders then you obviously missed the class when they taught unconditional love? Is it easier to call a person out when you believe them to be wrong? Why the need to hurt, have we gotten so caught up in this situation, taking sides, defending the precious school, that we forgot to love? Because the way I see it - loving God is loving man…
Although I may not agree with all the content and such, I think that if this is the way that Kyle gets out his fear and pain then so be it - as for tainting people, what are you scared they will find out? And furthermore if you are so against this blog and all that he says on it - why do you look at it at all, I bet you even have it bookmarked. You are guilty as well - does it make you feel better to log on and tell him how evil he is? Did you know that all sins are equal? When you sit there and you tell your friends all about the whacked out blog Kyle wrote and how messed up he is - do you not realize you are just as bad as you claim he is? If not worse, you seem as though you are taking pleasure in someone else’s pain…shame on you.
April 20th, 2007 at 6:44 pm
Hey,
I love what you’e doing!
Don’t ever change and best of luck.
Raymon W.